EV Challenger in 2024

Looks like if you want a gas powered Dodge, better get it before 2024.

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/...-dodge-gas-dodge-ev-2024-dodge-ev-concept.htm

 

So sad....

 

Sad, very. And i am not against EV i am against the way they are rolling them out. My neighborhood was built in 1997, not too old. If even half of the houses get an EV we will flood the lines.

The infrastructure is not ready, not even close.

 

Our local morning new show even had a quick blurb on Dodge going electric with their muscle cars in two years.

 

For all you doom and gloom folks, Ya you won't be able to buy a new one(don't know how you can afford one) there will be plenty of good used one them for a long long time.
Here is a quote from motor trend mag"The number of EVs in use globally topped 10 million in 2020(I'll make it shorter to read)By 2030 there will be a least 145 million, maybe even 230 million. Over the same period, the number of internal combustion engines is expected to increase from 1.2 billion to between 1.8 billion and 2.0 billion"
Did you know you can still buy parts for model A's

 

I have done extensive analysis of the raw materials needed to produce EV's including Lithium, Cobalt, Copper, and rare earth elements needed for electromagnets. There simply isn't enough supply available currently to meet the increased demand for these elements. Therefore, prices will rise significantly making EV's even more expensive to produce. There are many other issues with EV's that have to be addressed as well including the highly limited availability of charging stations. We won't talk of the risk of fires while charging EV's here, but it is real.
What amazes me is the total lack of understanding by government officials and others about the total energy needed to power society. In liquid fuels alone, the US consumes 20 million barrels per day of energy. This is equivalent to 18,360 000 MW of power or 36,720 each 500 MW power plants operating 24/7/365, not a few hours a day like solar or only when the wind blows like wind turbines.

Thus, to have an EV future, you need to cover the entire land area of the US and Canada with wind and solar panels to meet the Net Zero by 2050 aspirational goals of the current government. A task that simply cannot happen even if it was desirable.

The real problem with EV's is the incredibly low energy density of a battery. A Lithium Ion battery has 0.5 MJ/kg of energy compared to gasoline which has 44.5 MJ/kg. This is what limits the range of EV's so severely and makes electric trucks totally impractical.
There is much more information that has to be considered as society makes the choice of what the future will look like. This includes the damage to the environment by replacement technologies. Wind and Solar have massive impacts on land and even birds as they are killed by these sources of power production. But batteries are even more damaging. 1 ton of Li-ion battery, what is in a Tesla Model S, requires 700,000 tons to 1.3 million tons of earth movement to recover the metals needed to make the battery. And this will only happen in countries that will allow this level of mining activity. The NGO's in the US will never permit this to happen here, but they want the product of that activity here but the pollution and damage done elsewhere.

 

Classic B5 - Great writeup on the negative and unrealistic aspects of EV's. I remember from an energy class I had in college, learning a little bit about the energy density of various forms of power generation. And recall the fact that, pound for pound, other than nuclear, nothing out there delivers better bang for the buck than fossil fuels. Which is EXACTLY why we use them. Nothing else comes close.

 

Electric Cars Not As Eco As Policymakers Claim, Says Executive Who Developed Nissan LEAF (forbes.com)

 

Good info can be found here:
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Energy_density

I would add that the slow charging rates achievable today create problems with the number of charging stations required. In order to reduce the time required, you would have to increase the energy available, which means major increases in the peak demand capacity of the electric distribution system, not only at the bulk level, but also at the individual station level.

Think of it this way - if you get to the point where you could recharge in 15 minutes, that's still 5 times as long as filling a tank of gas. That means that fueling stations will have to have 5 times as many spots as current filling stations, in order to meet the same throughput.

You would also need a power availability similar to that of a small city, as each car would be requiring a charging current of 2,500 Amps (150 kW, 15 minutes, 240VAC). Many houses in the US today have 100A service entrances, large ones have 200A. So, the equivalent to a 8 pump station today would be a 40-charging-station center, with a power service roughly equal to that of a 125 home subdivision.

Now, where are those 40 cars worth of people going to stand around for 15 minutes while their cars charge?

It's a big problem.